. >> ray, you russelled with this issues in the early days of the obama administration. i wanted to put the same question as emanuel formulated it to you, which is how does one integrate or reconcile an aggressive policy on human rights with a policy that is very centered on nonproliferation, is it impossible to do it? emanuel says there is a bay and in fact used the word expedient. i would note that the administration took fair amount of criticism after the green revolution for not speaking up strongly enough, early enough, as the crackdown began there it's also worth noting that about a year ago, the u.s. announced a set of sanctions on irgc and other officials on their human rights abuses, which is somewhat different. these sanctions were different than the typical sanctions which are very much aimed at proriff -- proliferators. so the administration would argue they have tried to grapple this. how would you answer that question. [inaudible] >> talk into the mic. >> i think when you kind of look at this issue, which is not upstrictly a u.s.-iran issue but it's imbedde